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sellchina 2009/10/14 21:57:27 +0支持 #238335

下了 看了 很普通的论调 可能大众喜欢吧


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JosephineQ 2009/10/13 16:58:17 +0支持 #237823

不管是拥有美貌、青春、智慧还是财富,这都是易逝的。只要开心地过好每一天,管你是钻石王老五,还是败犬,你就是快乐的。反之,每天忧愁度日,纵有金山银山,万千娇媚,那又如何呢?


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2009niucha 2012/05/17 14:51:43 [0] [0]

好有争议啊 真不是一本书的罪过

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linsong128 2012/04/22 11:53:18 [0] [0]

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无论看不看,我从小就知道男人都是狗
女人漂亮自然好,不漂亮的必然结果是更难吸引下半身思考的动物,所以不漂亮的女人需要多花点时间去做驯兽师,这只能说她会活得累一点,而不是精彩一点
不漂亮的女人,无论她做什么,狗狗们都不会说好,难道有狗会喜欢一件躺在“一个怀抱里可爱地装傻”的猪扒吗?它们会说:“做作!发骚!浪!”
你只要不漂亮,在男人眼里不漂亮,这些狗是无论如何都不能认同你的,这就是男人的天性。
幸运的是,大多数女人都知道这一点,无论漂亮不漂亮

先声明,我没有骂人的意思。顺着你的意思往下推:男人都是狗,那你必然是狗日的。唉,可怜的孩子,人生观这么扭曲。


就是啊,可怜的孩子,人生观这么扭曲。男人是喜欢内在美的,问哪个男人都是一样,要找个温柔贤惠的比找个漂亮但脑残的女人好。女人不是也喜欢帅男人。漂亮只是被女人当做可以获得财富的资本。

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你是说的很现实 你所表达的意思我也都能理解

但是 我们本身表达的论点 是不同的

比如 其实现在大部分人连爱情到底是什么东西都没搞明白 是激情的时刻 还是平淡的温暖 还是血浓于水的相守 或者是三者合一 才是爱情真正的面目 每个人心中都各有自己的定论

所以有不同的理解 就有不同的需求 有些人虽然不能让你激情澎湃 但却能让你感觉到温暖的美好 不能就说爱情只属于激情的火花 只属于年少懵懂时对异性的最初吸引

人的心智随着年龄成长 对爱情的领悟也会成长 看重的品质也会相对变化

对于美 谁都喜欢 问题是 如果单单是美 的外表 有多少意义?

生活中的乐趣难道就是 每天看着一个美丽的尤物 也会视觉疲劳的

那些词吧 也不能说是调侃之类 只是些总结名词而已 难道只有爱上王子公主才算是爱情? 难道爱情只蕴含肉欲的吸引?除此之外心灵 各方面的相知 沟通 全不算数吗? 也许男人是这样 但是女人不是这样 所以在爱情面前男女之间是永恒的不对等的

我曾对朋友说 如果怪物史莱克 是个女的 救了王子 王子会感恩但诀不可能会爱上她 好像还真没类似这样的童话故事 出现过

可是公主 却为了史莱克 放弃了美貌 变成了母怪物 这就是女人 对于爱情的诠释

所以我理解你对 男人立场上爱情观的解剖 :
女人如果有美貌 再有智慧能力 更好 但是女人有了一切 但没有美貌还是白说

但是作为女人 美貌是天生 除非去整容 难道说因为相貌不好就 放弃一切其他品质的追求吗?
爱情也不是人生活的全部理由 人生除了爱情 还有很多值得追寻的东西

心灵的幸福 才是真正的幸福 而你所谓的爱情是最粗浅的物种本能的吸引

再者 如果有了爱情 但是又怕失去爱情 整日战战兢兢 疑神疑鬼 患得患失 恋爱时怕男人丢了 结婚时怕男人出轨 整天为对付男人的本能 而使劲浑身解数 有意义吗?这样的人生?(这话我是对于那些好女人而已,现在海藻类的太多了 我这里全部忽略这类女人)

所以我认为作者绝对是幸福的 至少在事业上的成就感是幸福之一 毕竟除了书吧

女人的幸福很多种 就算因为难看点 没有爱情 也是可以通过自己的努力取得 另一类幸福

所以我们对于人性 对于现实的理解并没有冲突 所不同的是 你把女人的成功和幸福 全都归结在爱情 和男人身上 而相貌是打开男人爱情之门的唯一必需的条件 所以你把相貌和女人的幸福挂了等钩

而我认为 爱情只是女人幸福的一种诠释方式 而已 同样也包括对男人而言
Your words suggest the fact that you have a tough spirit, that's quite different from me. My spirit is catastrophically fragile.
How it can be seen, well, you said the author of this book is indeed in felicity, and if yourself stood at a similar situation, you would still find the purpose of your life, which would probably release all your spiritual burden and give you the reason to strive for your life, probably with felicity I guess.
This tough spirit of your kind, like the tenet of special troop soldiers, or an Assassin's Creed, asks no unnecessary spiritual glee, or even has no need to maintain an organic function to percept and sense and enjoy any spiritual glee.
That's the reason why someone like you with such tough spirit, if lost some chances to attain any joy in his or her life, would still lead the life of thriving.
Although your spirit's toughness doesn't have necessity to be tested and proven, at least you dare to step forward that some yearnings are not vital to you, and some tragedies in intersexual relationship are not unbearable to you. At least you dare to think in this way.
More specifically, if a female with such tough spirit couldn't find her true love, which must bring her enthusiasm, palpitation (probably with a little fear and pain : ), warmth like what you said, and which misses none of all the ingredient but stirs the whole recipe into dulcet serenades, she would not be stuck by the agony bequeathed by that she couldn't reach her fairy yearning, instead she would leave them behind and swerve towards other directions and try to seek console from sth. else.
And another aspect, if a male with such tough spirit couldn't find his supreme spiritual glee, this says he doesn't have the ability to fascinate the girl who has enthralled himself, he would still be glad of getting down to finding an opportunity to struggle for a plain but peaceful life. If he receives stigmatization, either it is of substantial or conceptual, he would undertake it with his body but circumvent in his spirit. Leave unnecessary spiritual concern rot, and do the role part of himself well, even if it's distained, substantially or conceptually.
Because according to the tenet of special troop soldiers or an Assassin's Creed, it makes no sense to ask unnecessary spiritual joy, it proposes if some kinds of stupid joy really be useful to rise the efficiency of tasks in your life, let it rest upon you, but if another kind of aristocratic joy be nothing more than of a joy's use, and be luxurious to maintain, just don't bother with it.

I understand this kind of tough spirit, I can imagine what it may feels like. But in my opinion, they are not really happy in the bowel of their hearts. But I respect them, just like I adore special troop soldiers and Assassins with their creeds :)


I just HAD to step in after you started using English in a fair arguement. It's downright disturbing that a pessimist in love and gender-equality exists in such broad daylight in a modern time like this.

I will admit that I'm a female. I'm also a machanical engineering student. So does this make me ugly, insecure, lack faith in love and sexually inactive? (Oh, and the answer to all those is no though I suspect you will say yes to all of them)

Not all of us wants to be objectified for viewing and sexual purposes, and those who do, are the one you are talking about. I've known many women who are intelligent, successful and happy. They are not the ones you read about in the paparazzi newspapers or on garbage news websites because they are happy as they are.

Your language strikes me that you are a male video gamer who's been abroad and part of a financially well-off family. Also, you probably slept with a lot of gold-diggers and "dumb-blondes".
Just what kind of role model your family and those around you have shown you is beyond me. I'm just deeply saddened by the male population produced by modern China.

I had no intention on reading this book at all though an accidental glance at the comments have attracted my anger. This has shown me that the highschool/college young men of modern China are patriarchal and primal as ever.

Thankfully, this will be the one and only time I fume on VeryCD.

表生气d(happy.gif),那是我好几年前为了2b地尝试高超的口恶毒舌厚黑之艺术而乱写的,经历多了,感觉那时实在太幼稚太丢人。不过这一点的好的方面也表示我对很多事情的理解也在进步。

我不争论了,总之听聪明人讲话就是舒服,其他什么对错的争论都是浮云,听有内涵的句子就是一种享受,这样的享受不是经常能遇到,所以谢谢你的回复happy.gif,祝心情愉快happy.gif

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Huntna 2012/04/12 11:44:25 [0] [0]

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哦,哦,很好,小姑娘,谢谢你的回复。你都对,我无话可说。
不过还是要多说几句,你就是站在条件好的位置上,为条件不好的猫哭耗子。
智慧不智慧都是随便人说的,但是漂不漂亮就不是随便人说的。
我问你,陈冠希和杨振宁谁有智慧?他们同时轰轰烈烈地追你,我就不信你不选两个中的某个,而选另一个。
但是问你原因,你当然不会说因为这个帅,那个不帅,而是会说两个都有智慧,只是自己比较欣赏此种智慧而非彼种智慧。
总之这个问题没争的,在性吸引力上面优秀的就会占尽便宜,不优秀的就会受尽屈辱,就像熊就能把狼拍死,狼就不能把熊咬死。

另外,少男少女互相被对方的性吸引力吸引,这叫爱情,就算不能长久。
等人到中年,想为自己下半辈子找个依靠的时候,这又是另一回事,而不是爱情。人可以后悔自己青春的时候太贪婪爱情(主要就是吸引力)而做了让自己下半辈子不爽的事儿,但是这种后悔是建立在忘恩负义地丢弃青春岁月曾经获得的心动和遗失的幻想的基础之上的。中年了,青春的感觉消失了,想要一些现实的东西了,就把吸引力这种东西贬的一文不值,看透了,然后就走对人生道路了,走向幸福了,有这么容易的事儿吗?否认年少的时候是如何对坏坏的帅哥心动的了?
“好男人”,“经济适用男”等等这些词汇是好听词儿吗?是对那些没有吸引力的,青春的时候没有把一堆少女弄上床,但是那些曾经的小姑娘青春激情过了,青春不在了的时候,又会发现他们有可用之处的男人的调侃和侮辱。
同样的道理,“不漂亮,但是有智慧的女人”这些词儿私底下是个什么意思就不用我说了吧?

当女人发现自己漂亮,老公也花心,于是就羡慕不漂亮但是有智慧的,但是她们不知道,这不是你漂亮不漂亮,智慧不智慧的问题,处心积虑地想要男人不花心,只有一个办法,指望他没本事,花心不起来吧。

最后,抱歉,我说的太残酷了,呵呵,没关系,比现实好一点儿。 :)



你是说的很现实 你所表达的意思我也都能理解

但是 我们本身表达的论点 是不同的

比如 其实现在大部分人连爱情到底是什么东西都没搞明白 是激情的时刻 还是平淡的温暖 还是血浓于水的相守 或者是三者合一 才是爱情真正的面目 每个人心中都各有自己的定论

所以有不同的理解 就有不同的需求 有些人虽然不能让你激情澎湃 但却能让你感觉到温暖的美好 不能就说爱情只属于激情的火花 只属于年少懵懂时对异性的最初吸引

人的心智随着年龄成长 对爱情的领悟也会成长 看重的品质也会相对变化

对于美 谁都喜欢 问题是 如果单单是美 的外表 有多少意义?

生活中的乐趣难道就是 每天看着一个美丽的尤物 也会视觉疲劳的

那些词吧 也不能说是调侃之类 只是些总结名词而已 难道只有爱上王子公主才算是爱情? 难道爱情只蕴含肉欲的吸引?除此之外心灵 各方面的相知 沟通 全不算数吗? 也许男人是这样 但是女人不是这样 所以在爱情面前男女之间是永恒的不对等的

我曾对朋友说 如果怪物史莱克 是个女的 救了王子 王子会感恩但诀不可能会爱上她 好像还真没类似这样的童话故事 出现过

可是公主 却为了史莱克 放弃了美貌 变成了母怪物 这就是女人 对于爱情的诠释

所以我理解你对 男人立场上爱情观的解剖 :
女人如果有美貌 再有智慧能力 更好 但是女人有了一切 但没有美貌还是白说

但是作为女人 美貌是天生 除非去整容 难道说因为相貌不好就 放弃一切其他品质的追求吗?
爱情也不是人生活的全部理由 人生除了爱情 还有很多值得追寻的东西

心灵的幸福 才是真正的幸福 而你所谓的爱情是最粗浅的物种本能的吸引

再者 如果有了爱情 但是又怕失去爱情 整日战战兢兢 疑神疑鬼 患得患失 恋爱时怕男人丢了 结婚时怕男人出轨 整天为对付男人的本能 而使劲浑身解数 有意义吗?这样的人生?(这话我是对于那些好女人而已,现在海藻类的太多了 我这里全部忽略这类女人)

所以我认为作者绝对是幸福的 至少在事业上的成就感是幸福之一 毕竟除了书吧

女人的幸福很多种 就算因为难看点 没有爱情 也是可以通过自己的努力取得 另一类幸福

所以我们对于人性 对于现实的理解并没有冲突 所不同的是 你把女人的成功和幸福 全都归结在爱情 和男人身上 而相貌是打开男人爱情之门的唯一必需的条件 所以你把相貌和女人的幸福挂了等钩

而我认为 爱情只是女人幸福的一种诠释方式 而已 同样也包括对男人而言
Your words suggest the fact that you have a tough spirit, that's quite different from me. My spirit is catastrophically fragile.
How it can be seen, well, you said the author of this book is indeed in felicity, and if yourself stood at a similar situation, you would still find the purpose of your life, which would probably release all your spiritual burden and give you the reason to strive for your life, probably with felicity I guess.
This tough spirit of your kind, like the tenet of special troop soldiers, or an Assassin's Creed, asks no unnecessary spiritual glee, or even has no need to maintain an organic function to percept and sense and enjoy any spiritual glee.
That's the reason why someone like you with such tough spirit, if lost some chances to attain any joy in his or her life, would still lead the life of thriving.
Although your spirit's toughness doesn't have necessity to be tested and proven, at least you dare to step forward that some yearnings are not vital to you, and some tragedies in intersexual relationship are not unbearable to you. At least you dare to think in this way.
More specifically, if a female with such tough spirit couldn't find her true love, which must bring her enthusiasm, palpitation (probably with a little fear and pain : ), warmth like what you said, and which misses none of all the ingredient but stirs the whole recipe into dulcet serenades, she would not be stuck by the agony bequeathed by that she couldn't reach her fairy yearning, instead she would leave them behind and swerve towards other directions and try to seek console from sth. else.
And another aspect, if a male with such tough spirit couldn't find his supreme spiritual glee, this says he doesn't have the ability to fascinate the girl who has enthralled himself, he would still be glad of getting down to finding an opportunity to struggle for a plain but peaceful life. If he receives stigmatization, either it is of substantial or conceptual, he would undertake it with his body but circumvent in his spirit. Leave unnecessary spiritual concern rot, and do the role part of himself well, even if it's distained, substantially or conceptually.
Because according to the tenet of special troop soldiers or an Assassin's Creed, it makes no sense to ask unnecessary spiritual joy, it proposes if some kinds of stupid joy really be useful to rise the efficiency of tasks in your life, let it rest upon you, but if another kind of aristocratic joy be nothing more than of a joy's use, and be luxurious to maintain, just don't bother with it.

I understand this kind of tough spirit, I can imagine what it may feels like. But in my opinion, they are not really happy in the bowel of their hearts. But I respect them, just like I adore special troop soldiers and Assassins with their creeds :)


I just HAD to step in after you started using English in a fair arguement. It's downright disturbing that a pessimist in love and gender-equality exists in such broad daylight in a modern time like this.

I will admit that I'm a female. I'm also a machanical engineering student. So does this make me ugly, insecure, lack faith in love and sexually inactive? (Oh, and the answer to all those is no though I suspect you will say yes to all of them)

Not all of us wants to be objectified for viewing and sexual purposes, and those who do, are the one you are talking about. I've known many women who are intelligent, successful and happy. They are not the ones you read about in the paparazzi newspapers or on garbage news websites because they are happy as they are.

Your language strikes me that you are a male video gamer who's been abroad and part of a financially well-off family. Also, you probably slept with a lot of gold-diggers and "dumb-blondes".
Just what kind of role model your family and those around you have shown you is beyond me. I'm just deeply saddened by the male population produced by modern China.

I had no intention on reading this book at all though an accidental glance at the comments have attracted my anger. This has shown me that the highschool/college young men of modern China are patriarchal and primal as ever.

Thankfully, this will be the one and only time I fume on VeryCD.

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mayipot 2012/03/07 13:44:48 [0] [0]

我想问,有没有横版文字的,我看这样竖的很累。

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lkjhsd 2012/01/23 21:01:15 [0] [0]

万分感谢

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隐joy 2012/01/23 13:20:54 [0] [0]

还没下下来看呢,评论真亮啊

更想自己看了

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ccyy987 2011/06/08 12:56:37 [0] [0]

不错

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wsljdw 2010/11/17 20:08:47 [0] [0]

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无论看不看,我从小就知道男人都是狗
女人漂亮自然好,不漂亮的必然结果是更难吸引下半身思考的动物,所以不漂亮的女人需要多花点时间去做驯兽师,这只能说她会活得累一点,而不是精彩一点
不漂亮的女人,无论她做什么,狗狗们都不会说好,难道有狗会喜欢一件躺在“一个怀抱里可爱地装傻”的猪扒吗?它们会说:“做作!发骚!浪!”
你只要不漂亮,在男人眼里不漂亮,这些狗是无论如何都不能认同你的,这就是男人的天性。
幸运的是,大多数女人都知道这一点,无论漂亮不漂亮

很欣赏国外的普遍审美观,因为你的个性可爱而喜欢你。总觉得国内的很多男人都是看外貌的,而且老是以第一印象定位,喜欢说现实中的女孩子怎样怎样,想想自己吧!

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greatlearner 2010/11/14 23:04:39 [0] [0]

作为男人,要不要看看呢?
有没有坏女人教我的那些事呢?

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LIASDF324 2010/10/24 03:04:03 [0] [0]

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很遗憾,作者很难看,再怎么折腾也白搭。
这就像在愚昧的农村,巫医可以用自己的一点小聪明博得一帮簇拥者来相信他无病不医,并因此致富,然而当疾病降临到他自己头上,还是摆脱不了不幸的命运。

不过话说回来,女人如果很漂亮,就会自然遵守女人的天性,沉浸在漂亮带给自己的小幸福里,不事张扬,更不会到处宣扬自己很聪明,而是在一个怀抱里可爱地装傻。

正因为不漂亮,才会有女人偏离女人天然的轨道,表现出男人婆一般的“睿智外显”,证明自己的人生不满不是因为天生缺陷,而是因为自己比那些“花瓶”高明。

泪流满面 我想说的你都说了

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布哒 2010/10/15 13:56:54 [0] [0]

看完了估计对男人追女仔的把戏就更透彻了,或许这样就把男生的什么花言巧语之类的都看个精光,以后要是找男友,可能都从里面的原则拿出来对比,看看那个男的说的一些话和用接近人的方式,台词是不是都和这本书一样的,要是知道是一样的,就知道他们肯定是翻书照做,然后就对他们带着这样的目的性兴趣索然。估计看完了我也是黄金单身女一条。。不仅变得理智,而且自己会变的更安全。。。。还亏书中的九把刀经典:犹豫着要不要推荐给女友。推荐给女友还算他诚实。不推荐要是我是他女友也能理解,要是我是男的看到这本书,第一反应还算开心,因为里面有教男生该怎么告白追女孩子。第二反应就是交了女友就千万别让她看见,追到手就把这本书丢掉或是传给另一个单身汉。

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huangchengdan 2010/08/07 12:15:21 [0] [0]

评论的精彩,多过于书了!

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annie03 2010/07/26 21:56:25 [0] [0]

我看看先再评论!

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