比起腐败,浪费更被容易忽视。有个地方,嗯,名字不说了媒体也没报道,建了条步行街,觉得和城市的历史地位不相称,根本没用,好的全都拆了,再建一遍。几亿就没了。年末这个时候是财政突击花钱的时候,估计你在媒体也看到过。财政一年的钱没花够,第一,你们市“投资”力度不大政绩要打折;第二,第二年不会给你那么多划拨的财政经费了。比如个小点的例子吧,有个地方的年末把公安局派出所啥的旧点的空调全部换了,几百万花出去全给换新的。这叫慰问。类似这种花法可以一一照例,突击花下来很容易。
什么工程项目失败了,咱这叫“交学费”。
你说银行可以不呆着?我知道一个地方,没有工商银行。就是因为银行的贷款收不来,工资发布了,只好关掉一些营业网点,最后没办法。可是不贷款行吗,比如安玻(安彩)集团这个可以给你名字当地都知道,之前还是经常上新闻联播外地的来了这个市就拉安彩参观。全球CRT玻壳老大。几年前他们吃进去了国外的康明过时的CRT生产线,但是大概05年的时候液晶平板价格跳水,份额疯长导致CRT急剧进入淘汰期。当时收购的时候,记得报纸已经有记者隐晦提出引进过时技术的危险。不过政府出面,你银行敢不贷款吗?你跟政府唱反调很难。银行的钱谁给?都是老百姓的——我们中国老百姓有世界最好的储蓄率都喜欢存钱。
这“交学费”比起贪污,何止多了一星半点?
好了,这辩论就算完了,不打不相识,大家都是朋友,祝一帆风顺。
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看来是有些误解你了,不知道你有没有看过V FOR VENDETTA,看了那个就会明白各国政府处心积虑夸大恐怖主义(恐怖主义当然存在,千百年来都存在,但他们对于大国威胁实在是微乎其微,也只有在非洲或南美的部分自身就十分混乱又落后的国家才混得出名堂)威胁的原因,告诉人民他们正处在巨大的威胁之中,然后再抛出自己所谓的解决方案,他们出于恐惧自然就会投向你,911后美国最大的变化并不是发动了那两场战争,而是政府将监控的触手伸到了各个角落,将自己的人民全面处于自己的监控之中(我国估计也想,苦于技术不够高吧,技术差有很多原因,不过其中政府腐败才是最大的原因,4000万也就捣鼓出了个绿坝娘),另外我不赞成911是美国政府帮助恐怖分子完成的,但说是暗中配合就再适合不过了,我估计当政府的高官们知道拉登要劫飞机撞世贸大楼的时候他们大概简直就是要乐疯了,对他们而言那简直可以说是一个发动战争和控制人民的千载难逢的好机会,而区区几条平民的命(考文垂的人是白死了,不过英国佬把汉堡和德累斯顿炸得更惨)又算得上什么呢?!在那样的人的眼中人民=蚂蚁(或许还不如,如果他欣赏蚂蚁的话)。
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回复ls,”孩子“写的,都没耐心看,能绕的都绕了。这么轻蔑我,我也不知道找这么多东西是为什么,也不知道你们每天来看看有没有我的新帖子,过过瘾教育教育是什么心理。哈哈。除非你家人或者你也浮沉官场,否则你就算听说过,但未必听当事者说或者知情者,或者有机会亲历。
如果你看到的全是影子,那就是全是黑暗,没有阳光。
就像我说的那些巴以边境的人,他们是不是应该每天恐惧啊?
三条帖子算是了结,到此结束。
哥是白写了,隐藏的毒瘤没有眼睁睁看着毒瘤一天天长大变黑,也不做手术的毒瘤可怕。哥不是不知道阴暗,这社会老想着阴暗面,不知道你们活着,能快乐么?就像我第一次说的,老看着你周围朋友的缺点,还有朋友么?
顺便说下deadshot的本拉登
我的最后一个帖子,你以后可以不用惦记我这个小P孩了,哥周一也要奋斗去了,大家都一样。
以下是根据材料,伊斯兰教背景的”国际仁爱基金会“的文件披露的一份文件
1979年大学毕业后,拉丹正赶上苏联入侵阿富汗。为此,他放弃了掌管家族建筑公司的机会,投身阿富汗伊斯兰圣战组织。在沙特王室和美国中央情报局的支持下,拉丹为1990年迫使前苏联撤军作出了巨大贡献。
(这就是deadshot的本拉登和CIA的老黑白照片的历史背景,看看年龄也猜得出啥时候)
1990年,萨达姆下令伊拉克入侵科威特后,拉丹向沙特国王请命,希望带领“圣战者”打击萨达姆。但法赫德国王最后还是决定借助美国人的力量。这个决定被认为是对拉丹的一个重大打击。
带着失意的苦涩,他在1992年去了苏丹,建立军事基地,训练恐怖分子,将“侵入沙特宗教圣地的美国异教徒”视为敌人。如果那时美国和沙特接受了拉丹的“好意”,也许后来就不会出现“9·11”这样的血腥事件了。
第二 我说了,布什家族和拉登家族,是华氏911导演的讽刺。拉登家族庞大得很,或者说是乌萨马家族。去年还流出消息买下英超俱乐部喜鹊玩玩。
他们至少早期肯定支持过本拉登,没啥意见。
接着上面的跟帖。
那个扯远了,步入正题。虽然知道我写的你们都不爱看没耐心,不过如果准备反驳,那就还是给点面子吧。
找了能找到的所有资料,至今回了这么多已经远远超出我的想象了。一条条挨个反驳,你们看着没耐心,我也累了。
我也都是自己找的,那本书的六个主要疑点。我倒是想到官方去找,你倒给我个链接?
我的回答你给我看清楚!从这里开始读,哥哪里说竖着撞了?
我说的只是卫星竖着拍,飞机横着撞,你就看错了。可见的确如此,自己首先就觉得肯定是错的,不屑一顾的是不会怎么看的。
我连示意图都给了,会扇自己嘴巴前后矛盾?
算了知道你们没耐心,隔过去这个。
你们看到的视频和图像,不是有这个门前的大裂口吗?那是啥?导弹?还让人来围观还能进去,而不是不让人过去看?记者都能进去拍照片视频,给你们做纪录片素材。五角大楼只是清理就到了第二年。你不觉得这样知道的人太多了??啥导弹会搞出片子里那么大的火?
如果是你来导演,首先没必要拉那么多人的大飞机,几个人拉个小飞机冲,就行了。不nc的人都知道,人越少,通过的关节越少,越安全越没麻烦。我也看过《越狱》《24》,那毕竟是好莱坞啊。大飞机属于民航,从人那么多的民航机场起飞冲过来,需要打通的关卡之多知道秘密的人该有多少,也不怕起疑心?炸就炸吧,还让烧那么久火那么大,还让全世界都知道,911就一千多张照片录音,有必要么?谁不知道资料少点安全?我的那个纪录片《五角大楼攻击》受到采访的人从平民到士兵到“领导”,如果你看过就数数,多少人?光片子里就这么多人说假话,让他们以后都老实,不容易啊。不说了,因为这个你又说我只是逻辑了,继续。



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查了一下关于拉登家族和布什家族的渊源,里面主要涉及到了布什的老友兼投资人James Bath、拉登和他的哥哥、国际商业及信用银行BCCI(字面翻译不一定对)和布什的关系。
On September 24, President George W. Bush appeared at a press conference in the White House Rose Garden to announce a crackdown on the financial networks of terrorists and those who support them. “U.S. banks that have assets of these groups or individuals must freeze their accounts,” Bush declared. “And U.S. citizens or businesses are prohibited from doing business with them.”
But the president, who is now enjoying an astounding 92 percent approval rating, hasn’t always practiced what he is now preaching: Bush’s own businesses were once tied to financial figures in Saudi Arabia who currently support bin Laden.
In 1979, Bush’s first business, Arbusto Energy, obtained financing from James Bath, a Houstonian and close family friend. One of many investors, Bath gave Bush $50,000 for a 5 percent stake in Arbusto. At the time, Bath was the sole U.S. business representative for Salem bin Laden, head of the wealthy Saudi Arabian family and a brother (one of 17) to Osama bin Laden. It has long been suspected, but never proven, that the Arbusto money came directly from Salem bin Laden. In a statement issued shortly after the September 11 attacks, the White House vehemently denied the connection, insisting that Bath invested his own money, not Salem bin Laden’s, in Arbusto.
In conflicting statements, Bush at first denied ever knowing Bath, then acknowledged his stake in Arbusto and that he was aware Bath represented Saudi interests. In fact, Bath has extensive ties, both to the bin Laden family and major players in the scandal-ridden Bank of Commerce and Credit International (BCCI) who have gone on to fund Osama bin Laden. BCCI defrauded depositors of $10 billion in the ’80s in what has been called the “largest bank fraud in world financial history” by former Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau. During the ’80s, BCCI also acted as a main conduit for laundering money intended for clandestine CIA activities, ranging from financial support to the Afghan mujahedin to paying intermediaries in the Iran-Contra affair.
When Salem bin Laden died in 1988, powerful Saudi Arabian banker and BCCI principal Khalid bin Mahfouz inherited his interests in Houston. Bath ran a business for bin Mahfouz in Houston and joined a partnership with bin Mahfouz and Gaith Pharaon, BCCI’s frontman in Houston’s Main Bank.
The Arbusto deal wasn’t the last time Bush looked to highly questionable sources to invest in his oil dealings. After several incarnations, Arbusto emerged in 1986 as Harken Energy Corporation. When Harken ran into trouble a year later, Saudi Sheik Abdullah Taha Bakhsh purchased a 17.6 percent stake in the company. Bakhsh was a business partner with Pharaon in Saudi Arabia; his banker there just happened to be bin Mahfouz.
Though Bush told the Wall Street Journal he had “no idea” BCCI was involved in Harken’s financial dealings, the network of connections between Bush and BCCI is so extensive that the Journal concluded their investigation of the matter in 1991 by stating: “The number of BCCI-connected people who had dealings with Harken—all since George W. Bush came on board—raises the question of whether they mask an effort to cozy up to a presidential son.” Or even the president: Bath finally came under investigation by the FBI in 1992 for his Saudi business relationships, accused of funneling Saudi money through Houston in order to influence the foreign policies of the Reagan and first Bush administrations.
Worst of all, bin Mahfouz allegedly has been financing the bin Laden terrorist network—making Bush a U.S. citizen who has done business with those who finance and support terrorists. According to USA Today, bin Mahfouz and other Saudis attempted to transfer $3 million to various bin Laden front operations in Saudi Arabia in 1999. ABC News reported the same year that Saudi officials stopped bin Mahfouz from contributing money directly to bin Laden. (Bin Mahfouz’s sister is also a wife of Osama bin Laden, a fact that former CIA Director James Woolsey revealed in 1998 Senate testimony.)
When President Bush announced he is hot on the trail of the money used over the years to finance terrorism, he must realize that trail ultimately leads not only to Saudi Arabia, but to some of the same financiers who originally helped propel him into the oil business and later the White House. The ties between bin Laden and the White House may be much closer than he is willing to acknowledge

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有位国民党人士说过“我决定了!只要能救民于水火,我决心跳火坑了!”,一般人听到这句话必然对这位爱国人士肃然起敬,心想说这话的一定是个有骨气的爱国将领!但是这位仁兄在刚签完《塘沽协定》时还说过“别人去送国还不如我汪某去送。别人送国是没有限度的,而我送国则有限度,不能让他们把国都送完”!————卖国贼一个!就这还有人要为他歌功颂德呢:“一个人付出这么大代价,将自己的生命、名节……全押进去,挽救了起码数百万同胞的生命,不叫民族英雄叫什么呢?!”
有个日本学者,以毕生的精力致力于研究亚洲的文化,他最有创造性的思想就是所谓亚细亚主义以及黄种人的崛起之说,当时得到包括中国、印度在内的很多亚洲学者的强烈支持嘛!可是这位很多人都曾经敬佩有佳的学者,却打着他的亚细亚主义口号对中国人民犯下了滔天的罪行,最后也是作为甲级战犯接受了远东军事法庭的审判的。。。
有位总统说“我们不但要把军队派到那里,还要把人道主义和自由带到那里”,听起来挺有道理吧?但说这句话的人还说过“PEACE=WAR”,这个简单的等式就造成了89360伊拉克平民的死亡(这只是联合国的统计数字,民间统计的数字绝对比这个多)!————说这话的人简直是魔鬼,然而还有人更加厚颜无耻地为其辩护“死伤的都是阿拉伯平民吗”、“这是一场长期的战争”。。。
有人说阴谋论者“大赚版权费出书,去伤害不想去回忆这一痛苦的人们,是不义”,那么美国在阿富汗不去惩治本拉登而是忙着大发战争横财就算正义之举了?
那些披着美好外衣的言论总是有人为之欢欣鼓舞甚至神魂颠倒的,多话不说,看看历史是怎么自我重复的吧
引用某位白宫发言人的话:“那些被美军炸死的所谓阿拉伯平民是否真的无辜,倒要打个问号”呵呵,大家自己看,不做评论。想起了越南战争中一位向平民扫射的美国大兵的话:凡是听到我的枪声就逃跑的人,必定是心中有鬼的越共分子,所以我一定要把他们击毙;如果听到枪声都不逃跑的人,必定是训练有素的越共分子,那就更要开枪打死!我觉得二者逻辑很相似
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